Investigative journalist Paul D. Thacker wrote last week in his Disinformation Chronicle about what the Fauci papers - his diary of over 1100 pages and emails – reveal. Paul included a filmed interview he did of one and a half hours with two top public servants: Virologist Robert Redfield, director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) from 2018 to 2021, and Michael Caputo whom Donald Trump, during his first presidency, put in charge of communications at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). During Trump’s second term, Caputo managed the administration’s Covid response with the media.
Two days before Paul’s article, I provided a detailed account of Fauci’s many lies and policy initiatives, which had a devastating and lethal influence on Covid policies in the whole world. He lied about virtually everything: the origin of the virus, his NIH funding that created the monster that killed an estimated 26 million people, lockdowns, face masks, and vaccines.
Paul has written numerous eloquent articles about the censorship and the scientific and ethical corruption during the pandemic. He is a supporter of my Institute for Scientific Freedom that mention Socrates on the frontpage because he was executed for asking questions. Some of my best friends and myself were fired for asking questions or telling the world what we saw, but we must continue to expose abuse of power whenever we see it.
When I do not provide a hyperlink in the following, it means that the information comes from Paul’s article or his live interview, which can be watched.
The Fauci papers reveal that Fauci’s interest in his public image was more important to him than any serious engagement with getting the science right.
Fauci denied having funded the research that killed 26 million people
Fauci was so duplicitous that he lied under oath in Congress about the experiments he funded in Wuhan. He even denied they were gain-of-function experiments.
Senator Rand Paul questioned Fauci in Senate hearings on 11 May and 20 July, 2021. forbes.com
Fauci stated that “The NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.” On 20 July, Rand Paul asked Fauci if he wanted to retract that statement, noting it is a crime to lie to Congress. Fauci replied he had never lied to Congress and would not retract it.
Fauci had the unbelievable audacity and arrogance to say: “Senator Paul, you do not know what you’re talking about, quite frankly. And I want to say that officially. You do not know what you’re talking about. If anybody is lying here, Senator, it is you.”
Robert Redfield said that The National Academy of Sciences in 2017 introduced a ridiculously narrow definition of gain-of-function research. It made no sense to him that it covered only viruses that were already pathogenic to humans. The definition was clearly made in order to circumvent the moratorium on such experiments. However, it is even worse gain-of-function experimenting to take a virus that is not pathogenic and make it transmissible to humans by inserting a furin cleavage site and make it highly lethal.
Redfield said that “There is no question that NIH funded gain-of-function research in the Wuhan lab. Even the director of NIH has admitted that.”
He also said: ”I see Fauci as the godfather of gain-of-function research. He really was the cheerleader of gain-of-function research. In 2012, helped fund it, get it done and you know, wrote about how important it was for the world to pursue this research … I think Fauci knows in his heart because he’s a smart guy that this virus came from a laboratory, from research, even though he may have tried to portray in the public the contrary. That decision eventually led to the death of 10 to 20 million people ... like 200 Nagasakis … This virus is not going away. It’s forever. We’re still losing 80 to 100 people a day in the United States forever.”
Fauci called Paul Thacker a “totally weird person” who condemned him for “misleading the American public” and for “lying under oath at a congressional hearing.” This was exactly what Fauci did.
When discussing if Fauci is a sociopath, Caputo said: ”If there was someone who would be qualified as a sociopath, it would be someone who told themself the truth and routinely told the public a lie. A lie that was meant to cover your tracks in illegal research that you probably funded.”
Fauci’s aggressive denial of the lab leak
Fauci wrote in his diary that he liked Redfield who was a “good guy.” This changed after Redfield, already a month after the pandemic started, had concluded that the evidence strongly suggested a laboratory origin. Then, Redfield was a “bizarre personality.”
Somewhat ironically, maybe he was bizarre in a way. He was one of the extremely few scientists I respected who had major roles in the United States during the pandemic and Paul’s interview with him confirms his trustworthiness. For example, he said:
“Tony really took an aggressive view that it was natural spillover, and we had a number of disagreements on that and particularly with me asking him to have aggressive, transparent debates about the two hypotheses so that we can try to work towards the truth. The beautiful thing about science is science is self-purifying. And one of the principles of science is to have rigorous debate. And unfortunately, Collins [the then NIH director] and Fauci decided to abandon that principle of science and really go down to a single narrative that they tried to make everybody believe in.
And unfortunately, they were extremely effective in selling it to the media so that the media, even some to this day, still thinks that the origin of this virus was some type of natural event as opposed to the reality that it was laboratory research.
I’ve always said that the pandemic didn’t come from nature, it came from science ... He always took the center stage in being the person to communicate. Jay Bhattacharya [the current NIH director] said something that was pretty good on one of the shows, that Tony really got out of his lane. He was a lab scientist. He really wasn’t a public health policy guy, but he definitely took the center stage of being the voice of public health policy for America.”
Fauci noted in his diary that it was “truly unfortunate” that a formed CDC director “has stooped so low as to get into the conspiracy theory space.” Fauci doesn’t see the irony. Those who conspired to keep the truth out of sight were himself, NIH director Francis Collins and people like British zoologist Peter Daszak who did the Frankenstein experiments with the “bat lady” in Wuhan. Like Fauci, Daszak also lied to avoid being held culpable for the disaster he created.
Caputo was very frank in Paul’s interview with him. In May 2020, Fauci wrote about Caputo that he was sincere and one of his greatest fans, so different from “some of the shit I took during the early years of the Obama administration with that asshole Jenny Bacchus who always hesitated to put me on TV.”
Fauci invited Caputo to his home right after he had been appointed to manage the administration’s Covid response with the media and Caputo said about this: “It became abundantly clear to me that day that he was absolutely TV crazed. Praised. And he craved it ... This personal focus on getting as much time on TV as you can never ends well. Never.”
In July 2020, Fauci complained to his diary that the President and his people had denied “all requests for me to appear on any major TV programs” and added that ”Caputo is a con man who is completely full of shit. He says he wants me out there on TV and yet I am being blocked, very likely by him who knows nothing about public health.”
Fauci only likes you when you give him exactly what he wants. And when you stop feeding his ego, he begins trashing you and trying to destroy you behind your back. As Paul said, this personality trait is quite common in people with narcissistic personality disorder.
Caputo explained to Paul that Fauci had really curated the natural origin hypothesis and actively covered up what he had done in Wuhan to protect himself from his errant research there:
“Fauci was gaslighting all of us. More people got sick from that … Fauci was out there every day. And as at the time, we didn’t know he was lying about the origin story and curating all of his messaging to protect himself. You know, the victims of Covid be damned … And he wrote me, you’ll remember it, July 2nd, the day that he called me a con man, he sent me an email, which is out in public, that said, ‘Michael, you need to book me on TV over the July 4th weekend or people are going to die and it will be your responsibility.’”
Caputo noted that communications to the public was a mess because the media went directly to Fauci instead of the President’s administration. Fauci was secretly involved with the publication of the fraudulent March 2020 paper in Nature Medicine that claimed the virus had a natural origin. Caputo said that everybody involved should be investigated for crimes against science.
The lockdowns killed millions
Fauci recommended very harmful lockdowns even though we had known for decades that it is impossible to contain a respiratory virus by lockdowns.
Redfield said it was a huge mistake to shut down the country, “and this was really pushed largely by Fauci.”
Paul confirmed this in the interview: ”He said like, ’Well, I didn’t have responsibility for this. I was just one person there ... I was never involved in helping to shut down the country’ … He lies about this … He was talking about shutting down businesses and everything.”
Fauci supported school closures - then denied having done so. He also denied he was behind lockdowns but wrote in his diary that he and another Trump advisor, Hope Hicks, convinced Trump in April 2020 “to essentially put Easter on hold for this year,” even though Trump was very much against it.
The same month, Fauci wrote that Deborah Birx, who led the coronavirus task force for Trump, had said that Trump had yelled at her:
“’You and Fauci have destroyed the country and the economy. I should never have listened to you. You have completely destroyed us.’ He kept saying this over and over again and was yelling at her. I encouraged her that we are OK and at the end of the day she and I will be loved by the people we care about. She was relieved and after wrote me a text sincerely thanking me.”
Fauci didn’t argue to Birx that they made tough decisions that served the President wisely. Nor did he explain that they were both doing the right thing to protect the public during a deadly pandemic. Although Fauci’s job was to serve the American public, he seemed more interested in Fauci being loved. That same summer, Fauci wrote about a meeting with Trump that, as usual, he was very warm and friendly with him and said: ”I love you Tony. I feel like giving you a big hug.”
Caputo said about Fauci’s desire of being loved: “I couldn’t offer a better summation than the one he summed up himself.”
The folly of dressing the whole population as bank robbers
In March 2020, an NIH official informed Fauci that the randomised trials of face masks had not found they protected against influenza. As I noted in a previous article, Fauci at first recommended against masking during the Covid pandemic but changed his mind and defended his U-turn saying, “When the facts change, I change my mind.” This was mendacious because no new evidence had emerged.
At the same time, US Surgeon General Jerome Adams demonstrated on YouTube how you could make your own mask by folding a t-shirt. That wouldn’t work either of course.
Fauci, the CDC and vaccine efficacy
Redfield explained that the pandemic advice should have come from the CDC but it came from Fauci. At the first White House press conference, the first thing Fauci said was that he wanted the American public to know that he was the senior public health advisor for the nation. Off stage, Redfield asked Fauci what that was about, since Fauci was the head of a laboratory whereas Redfield was the head of the CDC.
Redfield noted that, “When I left CDC and Biden came in, one of the first things Biden did was made Tony the chief medical advisor to the President of the United States, right? Which puts that person over the FDA, over the CDC, over the NIH.”
Emails demonstrated that Fauci and others in the Biden administration ignored the science and manipulated the CDC for their own political purposes. This is ironic because the media ran amok during Trump’s second presidency, accusing Trump and Health Secretary Kennedy for exactly this.
I have written several articles describing how untrustworthy the media were and how they and major medical journals like the BMJ incessantly attempted character assassination on Kennedy, even though it was highly appropriate that he fired all 17 members of CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and assembled a new one, and started introducing much-needed vaccine reforms.
Fauci got one thing right: He wrote that CDC employees “have hubris and are often incorrect.” I explained at length in my vaccine book that CDC’s advice on flu shots is untrustworthy. They hyped the vaccines to the extreme, with false claims about their benefits. But the media never questioned what the CDC told them.
Fauci chose Rochelle Walensky to run the CDC under Joe Biden. She falsely told Congress that the Cochrane review that had shown face masks don’t work had been retracted. Paul said in his interview that he thinks it was Carl Heneghan from Oxford who told him that, “if they will lie to you about masks, they will lie to you about anything.”
During the summer of 2022, Fauci and other political appointees got Walensky “pulled back from making the statement that the vaccines were not effective at all in preventing infection and transmission.” However, Walensky was correct. The efficacy of the vaccines against infection is so poor that the CDC reported a rate as low as 24% after two vaccine doses, and it has never been shown, and is not even likely, that the vaccines can prevent transmission. The vaccines produce IgG antibodies in the blood, but the production of IgA in the nasal mucosa is not affected. And we have seen that the virus can easily spread in a fully vaccinated population.
Half a year earlier, Fauci attended a book party at a café, which required proof of Covid vaccination. After the party, Fauci was nervous all night about having gotten infected and he wrote in his diary: “I’m well aware that many people who are vaccinated are still getting infected and that worried me a lot.” Yet at the same time, he gave the public a totally different message about being safe when vaccinated. Fauci was so concerned about getting infected, even though he and others were vaccinated, that he considered cancelling an event the following evening at the French Ambassador’s house.
Fauci contradicted himself when he touted that the vaccines prevented transmission. Redfield explained how wrong this was and how they covered up for the lie:
”One of the first things Biden and Fauci said, ’The is an epidemic of the unvaccinated,’ … No, it’s not an epidemic of the unvaccinated because the vaccine doesn’t stop you from getting infected … They had the CDC stop tracking the number of people that were vaccinated that got infected ... they didn’t want anything to show that the vaccine didn’t work ... So, there was a lack of honesty about the data about vaccines all along and it was very bothersome. There was never a vaccine that could prevent infection … It shouldn’t have been mandated at all.”
Redfield: ”I always say that if you prove me wrong, the first thing I’m going to do is that I’m going to thank you because you taught me something ... there was a preconceived bias that these guys had that vaccines were good. Period ... It really wasn’t rigorous science at all ... they were extremely dismissive of natural immunity and they were very dismissive of vaccine injury.”
Fauci inappropriately urged people to reward him
The Senate released hundreds of internal emails showing that Fauci worked with NIH staff and researchers he funded to get awards and cash prizes, suggesting to people that they nominate him and explaining what they should do.
For example, he contacted Barton Haynes at Duke University to get an award plus a $900,000 cash prize he could use for himself. Redfield pointed out that it might be a legal problem for Fauci that he used government employees to help write these awards with individuals he was funding. Barton got $1.2 billion – yes, I repeat, $1.2 billion - in NIH funding, which Redfield said “shows a significant ethical lapse in judgment.”
Paul explained that people close to Fauci are not interested in reading the Fauci papers: “They don’t want to know. The Washington Post and the New York Times don’t write real stories about it. They spin.”
Last week, the Trump administration released a new legal advisory making clear that federal officials cannot use their public office to solicit lucrative private awards for themselves.
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This scandal is the biggest ever in healthcare. It killed an estimated 26 million people when we include those killed by the deeply inhumane, and scientifically unjustified lockdowns.
In contrast to Fauci and his allies, Sweden respected the science. Face masks were not mandated, and it was very rare to see a Swede wearing one. Sweden largely avoided lockdowns and had the lowest excess mortality in the whole western world during the pandemic (excess mortality is the increase in all-cause mortality during the pandemic compared with prepandemic levels).
When will gain-of-function experiments become illegal? Do we really need another pandemic to kill millions of people before this happens? Will the culprits be jailed?


covid aka Sars cov2 was not a monster, it was not created by NIH and it didn't kill anyone. https://jowaller.substack.com/p/seeing-is-believing
*Mr Gotzsche, before publishing such an article with such misleading terms as :
1. Bat lady
2.Gain of function that never worked(Ralph Baric admitted this)
3. Pandemic(they don't and therefore can't exist)
4. Spreading viruses(Professor Denis Rancourt proved this to be false from march 2020 onwards)
5. Terrible virus that escaped from a BSL4 Lab in Wuhan, China(really🤔)
6. Only blame Small Fish🐠 like Anthony Fauci and close your eyes🙈 to the Really Big Fish🐬🐬 like the US National Security Council(Military) who ran the Covid-19 Operation in the United States of America and beyond...
*Defending RFK(Robert Francis Kennedy)who obstinately STILL refuses to revoke the PREP Act which protects the Really Big Fish and CRIMINALS representing the Pandemic Preparedness Public Private Partnerships)
7. I could continue, but won't, as I think you get the message...
This misleading article represents, alas, perhaps your worst publication on substack🙁😢.
*But hey, it's never too late to retract it and direct readers towards those who have a REAL UNDERSTANDING of what was inflicted on the WORLD :
*sashalatypova.substack.com
*escapekey.substack.com (esc) who wrote 2 remarkable articles on the pre-engineered Covid-19 PLAN that was cruelly imposed on the world by those who represent the Global Governance Model👀🕵️
*Dr. Michael Yeadon (Suavek on substack).
Bonne continuation,
CY🇫🇷