Please, Mr. Goetzsche: don’t ride on this wave of scientistic hybris! How can you exclude actual ontological facts - spiritual healings, that are documented all over the whole world - just by the application of narrow-minded scientific approach towards these phenomena? The observation that certain events cannot be grasped by measuring methods does not give science the „right“ to exclude parts of reality, which just don’t fit into scientific framework. I recommend to you reading Rupert Sheldrake‘s „The science delusion“ in order to examine your own basic assumptions about what reality is through a broader perspective. I wish that you might return to your critical thinking skills which have helped us during Covid pandemic to unmask the wrong narrative.
There is no reliable science that shows that spiritual healing works. But psychotherapy can work for mental health disorders if that is what you mean. According to AI, Spiritual healing is a holistic, non-invasive practice that channels universal or divine energy to improve mental, physical, and emotional well-being by restoring balance to the mind, body, and soul. “Universal or divine energy,” or restoring energy balances, is utter nonsense, so typical of how alternative practitioners dupe their clients.
Besides, I find supernatural claims of miracles or spiritual healing completely unbelievable because surely we’d all have heard about it already and we wouldn’t have to wonder from what sources you’re drawing from. Radical claims with enough justification to show something strange is going on would become front page global news in a near instant.
This is actually not the case at all. There is in opposite a broad agenda against spiritual phenomena, natural healing methods, shamanistic practices, herbal medicine or homeopathy on the way which is designed to exclude these non - materialistic approaches completely by claiming they have no reality because „science“ cannot figure out why and how they function (which is actually also by far outdated - referring to Rupert Sheldrake, quantum physics, quantum medicine etc.). So we are told that there is no scientific proof for all of these phenomena and thus nonexistent nonsense. And scientists which deal with theses themes are diffamed. Ultimately scientism is put in a position like in old times the religions had. That is scientistic fundamentalism which has the structure of medieval absolutism where churches define reality and prosecute the heretics which claim different opinions. That dynamic we observed during corona pandemic when scientists who criticized the narrative of governments where „excommunitized“ from being members of THE SCIENCE.
Great humour, Vinu! Cochrane cannot be saved because it has refused to save itself. I tried to save Cochrane as an elected board member and was “thanked” by being expelled, see my two books about this, one is gratis.
This is horrifying and beyond satire. I kept hoping you were going to reveal that this had been a satirical study, but sadly, not. For Cochrane to arrogantly defend such nonsense is deeply dispiriting. What next, a study testing if pigs can fly?
I had always had great respect for the Cochrane Institute and untill the last few years, hadn’t realised how far it had fallen, but the kind of shenanigans you detail above illustrate it very clearly. Very sad!
Actually, it is not necessary for science to be able to explain or understand the process by which an effect occurs. Establishing that an effect occurs, regardless of the mechanism, is essentially a statistical process. Having established that it does occur, we would obviously want to go further and understand the mechanism, but this is a separate question.
Yes, it’s controlled opposition. A classic elite strategy.
That said, regarding homeopathy, one might wonder if there is really nothing in the pills. The fact that they are made of sugar raises a question. Indeed, 19th-century doctors used this method to mask the bitter taste of certain medicinal substances. So, perhaps there is something in them—perfectly standard substances like anti-inflammatories or opiates—hidden by the sugar. That would explain—in addition to the placebo effect—why a number of people experience improvements when they take it. It’s worth looking into.
Please, Mr. Goetzsche: don’t ride on this wave of scientistic hybris! How can you exclude actual ontological facts - spiritual healings, that are documented all over the whole world - just by the application of narrow-minded scientific approach towards these phenomena? The observation that certain events cannot be grasped by measuring methods does not give science the „right“ to exclude parts of reality, which just don’t fit into scientific framework. I recommend to you reading Rupert Sheldrake‘s „The science delusion“ in order to examine your own basic assumptions about what reality is through a broader perspective. I wish that you might return to your critical thinking skills which have helped us during Covid pandemic to unmask the wrong narrative.
There is no reliable science that shows that spiritual healing works. But psychotherapy can work for mental health disorders if that is what you mean. According to AI, Spiritual healing is a holistic, non-invasive practice that channels universal or divine energy to improve mental, physical, and emotional well-being by restoring balance to the mind, body, and soul. “Universal or divine energy,” or restoring energy balances, is utter nonsense, so typical of how alternative practitioners dupe their clients.
Besides, I find supernatural claims of miracles or spiritual healing completely unbelievable because surely we’d all have heard about it already and we wouldn’t have to wonder from what sources you’re drawing from. Radical claims with enough justification to show something strange is going on would become front page global news in a near instant.
This is actually not the case at all. There is in opposite a broad agenda against spiritual phenomena, natural healing methods, shamanistic practices, herbal medicine or homeopathy on the way which is designed to exclude these non - materialistic approaches completely by claiming they have no reality because „science“ cannot figure out why and how they function (which is actually also by far outdated - referring to Rupert Sheldrake, quantum physics, quantum medicine etc.). So we are told that there is no scientific proof for all of these phenomena and thus nonexistent nonsense. And scientists which deal with theses themes are diffamed. Ultimately scientism is put in a position like in old times the religions had. That is scientistic fundamentalism which has the structure of medieval absolutism where churches define reality and prosecute the heretics which claim different opinions. That dynamic we observed during corona pandemic when scientists who criticized the narrative of governments where „excommunitized“ from being members of THE SCIENCE.
Should we pray for Cochrane?
Great humour, Vinu! Cochrane cannot be saved because it has refused to save itself. I tried to save Cochrane as an elected board member and was “thanked” by being expelled, see my two books about this, one is gratis.
As always, thanks for all your work, Prof. Gøtzsche!
But What If this god is not in space, but inside you? That is very close …!
And What if that what we not have (scientifically) discovered yet is there already?
By the way: We don’t know anything about water, the most common stuff on this planet! Never totally understood …!
This is horrifying and beyond satire. I kept hoping you were going to reveal that this had been a satirical study, but sadly, not. For Cochrane to arrogantly defend such nonsense is deeply dispiriting. What next, a study testing if pigs can fly?
I had always had great respect for the Cochrane Institute and untill the last few years, hadn’t realised how far it had fallen, but the kind of shenanigans you detail above illustrate it very clearly. Very sad!
Actually, it is not necessary for science to be able to explain or understand the process by which an effect occurs. Establishing that an effect occurs, regardless of the mechanism, is essentially a statistical process. Having established that it does occur, we would obviously want to go further and understand the mechanism, but this is a separate question.
How is this even an article. Of course prayer didn't work. Magic isn't real. The end
Yes, it’s controlled opposition. A classic elite strategy.
That said, regarding homeopathy, one might wonder if there is really nothing in the pills. The fact that they are made of sugar raises a question. Indeed, 19th-century doctors used this method to mask the bitter taste of certain medicinal substances. So, perhaps there is something in them—perfectly standard substances like anti-inflammatories or opiates—hidden by the sugar. That would explain—in addition to the placebo effect—why a number of people experience improvements when they take it. It’s worth looking into.
Dear Prof. Peter C Gotzsche,
I'm praying that you will eventually FIND that the God who created you actually dwells in you.